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2004-01-12 4:20 PM Liberal Hawk Reflections Previous Entry :: Next Entry Read/Post Comments (2) This is an extremely interesting roundtable of liberals who supported the invasion of Iraq, including Paul Berman, Thomas Friedman, Christopher Hitchens, Fred Kaplan, George Packer, Kenneth M. Pollack, and Fareed Zakaria, and moderated by Jacob Weisberg.
It's an ongoing dialogue, and it's just getting started, but there's already plenty of good stuff here. Weisberg starts off with the question: With the benefit of hindsight, do you still believe that the United States should have invaded Iraq in March 2003? He begins by admitting his support for the war prior to the invasion, on these basic grounds:
and then says:
Though he says his mind is still not made up. He then asks for Kenneth Pollack and Tom Friedman's thoughts. Pollack worked for Clinton and wrote "The Threatening Storm". He begins by admitting:
For me, this uncertainty and Hussein's unwillingness to cooperate in the face of 17 U.N. resolutions compelling him to do so are validation enough. But Pollack reiterates the humanitarian justification as well:
Yes. The Balkan campaign was not a case of us being attacked first. That doesn't mean it was "preemption"...that means it was the humane thing to do. Pollack's basic approach is to look at all the available options, and he concludes that they were all bad. Leave a genocidal, torturous dictator in power indefinitely, still consuming significant military resources to contain him, letting him flaunt multiple U.N. resolutions and continue to exploit the oil-for-food program. Or invade to depose him, at the risk to Iraqi and U.S. military lives, at great expense, with the possible use of WMD in war, but bringing about the liberation of Iraq and giving it a chance to become a stable, functioning democracy. And Pollack fully considered the covert assassination option:
Well, yeah, there's the likelihood of success, but there's also the moral question of covertly shooting leaders in the back of the head and creating a power vacuum. This honestly seemed like the very worst option to me. Much of the world didn't seem to like to see us kicking in the front door...how would they have reacted to us slitting Saddam's throat in the middle of the night? Friedman then restates much of the content from his editorial columns leading up to the war. He never bought nor cared about the WMD question.
And finally, George Packer comes to the same conclusions as the rest...that the war, in retrospect, was justified:
Exactly. There isn't. It always amazes me those that can't find justification for this war on humanitarian grounds alone. Saying that this wasn't Bush's primary argument for the war isn't an argument. Do you only believe that something's morally justified if someone sells it to you the right way? Couple that with the uncertainty about Iraq's WMD programs (it's fairly obvious now that no one really knew their real capabilities...perhaps not even Saddam himself) and their unwillingness to cooperate fully with inspections, and the case for military action is more than completely justified. In any case, this is an interesting discussion, with some very articulate contributors, and I'll probably be commenting on it throughout it's duration. Read/Post Comments (2) Previous Entry :: Next Entry Back to Top |
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